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A prominent conspiracy theorist has recently been chasing me
to do a public debate on various topics, and somehow tracked
down my home address. This is my explanation to him for why I
refuse to debate him, even though I love doing public debates
in general.
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Hi XXXX, I got your stuff in the mail yesterday. Not sure how
you got my home address.
I’d like to reiterate that I am not interested in debating you
on any of your pet topics. I admit that these topics are
interesting to me, but I do not believe it would be fruitful
to debate things like your claims of Hillary Clinton having
murdered dozens of people personally, nor your 9/11 conspiracy
theories, etc.
If anyone can help falsify the Boeing Remote Control Take Over
hypothesis, and explain Ace Elevator Company, it is you. A lot has
changed since you ran JREF. "No planers" are discredited. Truthers are
skeptics of the Official Conspiracy Theory for good reason. We now
have peer reviewed articles in established, independent, scholarly
journals.
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16 March 2024 Only four of Trump’s 44 former Cabinet officials will endorse him. The rest are refusing to, many saying they consider him an existential threat to American democracy. And today, his own Vice President, Mike Pence, announced that is also refusing to endorse Trump. Wake up, sheeple!
If Republican Vice President Dick Cheney is saying this, that’s really
something:
“In our nation’s 246-year history, there has never been an individual
who is a greater threat to our republic than Donald Trump." — Former VP
Dick Cheney
D.J. Grothe Dick Cheney and his
daughter Liz are not supported by most Republicans. He is a RINO. Liz lost
re-election by an embarrassing margin because she does not stand for
Republican values: peace, prosperity, honesty. D.J. Grothe
Fred Shaddock |
D.J. Grothe I was a US Government contractor for many years, and know many
permanent USG employees enjoying mansions around DC who are afraid they will
lose their cushy jobs with generous benefits, wasting millions of tax payer
dollars, doing projects at a ridiculously slow pace, once Trump becomes
President. I could have stayed with the Deep State.
D.J. Grothe
Fred Shaddock what you were describing now is not the
deep state. It’s far more mundane: people who have homes and jobs who
want to keep their homes and jobs. That’s very dim of you.
The deep state conspiracy theory says that there is a cabal of
people deep in the government with a secret nefarious agenda, deceiving
the American public and media about it, and even many elected officials
about it, and that they are conspiring privately behind the scenes to
carry it out. Most versions of the deep state conspiracy theory have to
do with the deep state conspiring to oppose Trump’s supposed utopian
vision, and the like. 
The deep state conspiracy theory does not include the trivial fact that
there are longtime government employees who don’t wanna lose their jobs
or homes.
D.J. Grothe What do you
think about the 51 "intelligence officers" claiming that Hunter Biden's
laptop was "Russian disinformation"? It included emails about "10% for
the big guy" (Biden and his aliases).
DJ
D.J. Grothe The topic of
this thread is the Deep State as it pertains to Dick Cheney in the OP.
CIA's David Terry delivered the PDB to Dick Cheney. These "public
servants" lied to us tax payers who pay for their mansions and pensions.
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David Michael Rich
My favorite criticism from his cabinet is that of Rex Tillerson who is
alleged to have said “the president is a moron.”
David Michael Rich Let us know when you graduate at the top of your
class at NY Military Academy, then Ivy League Penn, then increase the
family real estate business in one of the world's most competitive
markets (NYC) over 1000 times from millions to billions.
D.J. Grothe
Fred Shaddock Firstly, his attendance at military
school was remedial for bad behavior, not an achievement. Secondly, it
appears his “achievement” at Wharton was to graduate at the bottom of
his class. Thirdly, even if one were to strip away all the exaggeration
and lies about his real estate career, and even the fact of his
successful first run for the presidency, and acknowledge what would
legitimately remain as his accomplishments, Trump would never be
anyone to respect or celebrate by my yardstick for he is an utter and
colossal failure at the single most valuable and noble quest in life,
and that is to be a person of good character. To be blinded by
bullshit or money is to live a truly and tragically impoverished life.
Enjoy it.
David Michael Rich Excelling and being elected
Captain of the Baseball Team, from tough Military School young men,
was not remedial. Some students just did the minimum. Trump wins more
because he keeps trying more. He will be our next President. Trump University
helped me get over $1 million in real estate. What course could Biden
teach- How to accept bribes? Trump can make you rich. Well your name
is already Rich. So Richer.
D.J. Grothe "Exxon mobile"
"Don't be dim, Fred."
Exxon Mobil
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 31 January 2024 Trump promised he’d bring manufacturing back to the U.S., but never did. But Biden did.
Money printing from nothing by the Federal Reserve makes prices go up
without a corresponding increase in value - on everything from apples
to APPL stock.
Supply chain disruptions during COVID, btw, is why (and has nothing to
do with Biden):
"American manufacturers are increasingly bringing production back to
the US to reduce their reliance on global supply chains that proved
vulnerable to disruption such as the pandemic.
An overwhelming majority of American companies with production
operations in China have already moved some back to the US or plan to
do so in the next three years, according to Kearney's 2021 Reshoring
Index.
Almost four in five corporations companies have already shifted
production to the US and at least 15% are considering it due to high
tariffs and ongoing supply chain challenges, Kearney's report shows."
George Brundage it has everything to do with Biden.
It’s about billions of dollars in investments in on-shoring
manufacturing resulting from things like Biden’s combo of various
legislative, policy, and executive actions. Things like the
Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, which indirectly supports
manufacturing through improved logistics, transportation, and utility
systems; the Inflation Reduction Act, which has billions of dollars of
investments in clean energy and manufacturing, boosting domestic
production of key components in the clean energy transition, such as
batteries and solar panels; the CHIPS act, focusing on revitalizing
the American semiconductor industry by providing billions in matching
funds for chip manufacturing based in the U.S., etc; and through
various executive orders aimed at strengthening American
manufacturing, including increasing federal purchasing of
American-made goods and nudging supply chains for critical goods to
reduce dependency on countries like China. He’s also enacted higher
labor and environmental standards in American manufacturing, which
actually create more sustainable high-quality jobs. Etc
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D.J. Grothe31 january
Between 1880 and 1924, some 25 million immigrants arrived in America,
mostly from Italy and the Russian Empire. It created a serious
anti-immigrant backlash, but without them, America could never have
become an industrial superpower — these immigrants provided a seemingly
infinite supply of cheap and ambitious labor for America’s factories,
and literally built our infrastructure and cities. Since 1965, some 35
million more immigrants have arrived, and their labor has continued to
build this country.
In very recent years, contrary to the scare-mongering headlines, refugee
immigration is minuscule statistically speaking, legal immigration is
less than a million per year, and illegal immigration is statistically
*nonexistent* (immigrants seeking asylum are not illegal immigrants). 
Despite the Know Nothing lunatic rhetoric of Donald Trump and the
Republican Party, there are fewer illegal immigrants here now than there
were at the end of the Great Recession in 2009.
And because of recent labor shortages due to unsound anti-immigration
policies, some crops have gone unharvested, and prices for consumers
have gone up (labor shortages are a cause of inflation).
The 2 million new immigrants over the last five years is a very good
thing for us: without them and their contributions to the American
economy, we would all be much worse off. They are one of the reasons the
U.S. has had the strongest recovery out of the COVID pandemic of any of
the G7 nations.
Consider that the home healthcare field is almost entirely immigrant
staffed. As are many other industries and sectors of our economy. And
many small towns are being kept alive solely because of immigrants
moving into them and providing most of the economic activity. (Small
town America has a severely shrinking population; their cultural and
economic energy comes from immigrants who do most of the labor,
agricultural and otherwise, and without them they would become ghost
towns.)
Immigration is a moral and economic good.
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Fred Shaddock
The 1880-1924 came legally, from high IQ countries, and received
little or no Welfare. Biden's army of millions of military aged men
are from low IQ countries, could not get a job in their home
countries, and most live on welfare at tax payer expense.
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17 January Good morning! The word for the irrational fear of palindromes is “aibohphobia,” which is itself a palindrome! |
Rick Shaddock
Wow!
Racecar
level
Dad!
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| 10 December 2023 Every 5 days in its unprovoked war with Ukraine, Russia loses as many soldiers as the United States lost over the entire Afghanistan war, which lasted 20 years, America’s longest war in its history. Putin treats his soldiers as utterly disposable and worthless, just like Stalin did. |
Unprovoked? NATO broke promises and moved closer and closer to Russia. We
didn't like Russia putting missiles in Cuba. Orwell wrote in 1984 that
wars are not meant to be won. The Military Industrial Complex is profiting
well in the DC area.
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Would you like to defend the Official Story in the 11th Annual 9/11 Debate
on Einstein's birthday 3/14/2025?
A spinning wheel of colors turn flesh.
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| 4 December 2023 160 federal judges have now been confirmed by the U.S. Senate under President Biden. Of the 160 confirmations, 66% are women and 67% are people of color. |
100% are people of color. My color is #FFE0BD according
to Home Depot.
Have you ever seen a colorless or invisible person?
I am an official, card carrying, dues paying member of the National
Association for the Advancement of Colored People. The NAACP does not
discriminate against, and allows me in Zoom meetings.
POC is a racial slur when intended to exclude White people. White is
capitalizes as is Asian, Black, and Hispanic.
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| 25 November 2023 Abraham Lincoln aged a lot during the seven years from 1858 and 1865, as shown in these two photographs from each year, respectively. This seven year span included the years of the American Civil War, which his wife Mary Todd said had made him look “so brokenhearted, so completely worn out.” He’s 56 years old in the second photo. Lincoln once said, “Sometimes I think I am the tiredest man on earth.”  |
I share some DNA with President Lincoln.
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She has reason to lie to get leniency. Actions speak louder than hearsay.
President Trump did leave the White House on time, without incident.
I was at the rally on Jan 6, 2021 and observed only peaceful protesters.
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| 10 November 2023 The United States has had the highest levels of real economic growth of all the G7 nations (the largest and most advanced economies in the world) since Covid. Americans should take yes for an answer.
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Presidents added 1987 - 2024
Trump economy did well until the China Virus.
Remember that inflation makes GDP appear higher.
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It is stupid to send money to a millionaire from "public
service" for 50 years, being
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160 federal judges have now been confirmed by the U.S. Senate
under President Biden. Of the 160 confirmations, 66% are women
and 67% are people of color.
100% are people of color. My color is #FFE0BD according
to Home Depot.
Have you ever seen a colorless or invisible person?
I am an official, card carrying, dues paying member of the National
Association for the Advancement of Colored People. The NAACP does not
discriminate against, and allows me in Zoom meetings.
POC is a racial slur when intended to exclude White people. White is
capitalizes as is Asian, Black, and Hispanic.
A spinning wheel of colors turn flesh.
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Inflation, caused by Fed money printing from nothing, causes everything
to have a higher price without a corresponding increase in value, from
Apples in stock to AAPL stock.
The House of Representatives prepares a budget for the Senate to
approve, which then goes to the President for signing or veto (which may
shut government down). The China Virus caused massive spending to save
lives.
FDR up 791%, Obama 64%, Trump 33%, Biden TBD%.
https://www.investopedia.com/us-debt-by-president-dollar-and-percentage-7371225
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John Eastman, architect of Trump’s 2020 conspiracy to steal the election, should be disbarred, judge rules
CALIFORNIA "Judge" Yvette Roland, evidently does not understand that the
Constitution that guarantees legal representation to anyone charged. (Even
Charles Manson had an attorney.) Nor did she hear that Georgia State's
Committee found there was plenty of evidence of fraud. Roland is the one
turning a blind eye to evidence. Hunter's Laptop (51 "intelligence" guys
said was "Russian disinfo") would have been enough for Trump to win. It is
obvious by Biden's low approval numbers that he did not get "more votes
than Obama." Her recommendation should be ignored by the Bar.
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"California Judge Yvette Roland--handpicked by the Democrat House
speaker... Roland's a donor to Barack Obama, Kamala Harris, Gavin Newsom,
DNC, ActBlue, and other Democrats."
What could go wrong? If she is really confident that Biden won fairly, why
doesn't she want an attorney to challenge the election? Judges are
supposed to be unbiased.
Democrats try to disbar attorneys who defend you "for democracy".
Fred Shaddock have you ever met a conspiracy theory
you did not like
D.J. Grothe The
Official Conspiracy Theory about a conspiracy of 19 small guys (15 Saudis)
breaking through a cockpit door of 4 planes, overcoming bigger, military
trained pilots, and flying themselves into buildings, not For Good Reason.
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I grew up Lutheran, but I was good pals with this kid who was some
strain of fundy, Pentecostal I think. One day we were shopping for a
gift for a friend of ours. I casually suggested an Ouija board. His
demeanor changed and he got quite serious, and advised me that that was
a sort of Demonic thing.
Later I became quite enamored of Houdini. One day I was over at my
fundie friends place and his mother suggested quite seriously to me that
Houdini may have accomplished his escapes because he was in league with
the Devil. That point was a starting point of deconversion to me, as I
realized immediately that it was pure bullshit. So I knew that at least
~some~ religious ideas were utter nonsense, and how many I realized were
nonsense grew over time until complete deconversion.
Matt Crowley I was flabbergasted once when a leader
in the cult I joined as a teenager told me with a straight face that
the children in his family do not watch David Copperfield, because
it’s well known that Copperfield uses demons to accomplish his miracles
like levitation 
D.J. Grothe You may be surprised that I (with a 100%
score on the Watson Glaser Critical Thinking Appraisal) bought a 2nd
home in Fairfield (besides DC) to practice the TM-Sidhis and
Levitation in the Golden Domes.
Fred Shaddock Right. But years of “trying to
levitate” has resulted in your levitating not even once.
D.J. Grothe I am quite busy and would stop if TM did
not save me time and bring progress. Many of your fellow Hollywood
celebrities practice TM, as well as gravity expert Dr. John Hagelin
(PhD, Physics, Harvard).
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What are you working on?
Cosmic Consciousness, real magic, and levitation.
Why are there over 100 FlyingSongs.com ?
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Tayson Peeters
Together with some friends (and fellow mentalists), we have founded a
non-profit organization with which we want to promote memory
techniques and various study methods to a broader audience, with a lot
of attention to scientific substantiation and correctness.K
Our target audience is in principle very diverse, but we are currently
focusing on a large project in which we want to help children in
poverty or deprivation to study more efficiently and effectively.
It often concerns generational poverty, and education remains 'one of'
the best ways to escape generational poverty.
By offering memory techniques, together with various study methods, we
hope to be able to do something for these children.
Tayson Peeters TM helped an idiot become a genius, score 100% on the
WGCTA, and memorize Pi to 108 places.
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TM turned an idiot into a genius
who believes in the Deep State and that Epstein was murdered (not in
QAnon).
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Today is the coldest day it’s been in Los Angeles since January
12th. Not a fan!
It must be the Global Warming.
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centrifuge (good for jogging) stopped spinning, the gyroscopic stabilizing
effect stopped, and Discover tumbled end over end.
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D.J. Grothe More than 30% of young Black men and 25% of young Black women are Trump supporters. 41% of young white women support Trump, a higher percentage than young white men. And almost 30% of atheists and agnostics are Trump supporters.
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DJ: The U.S. economy is the only one in the world right now that is doing
even better than was expected pre-pandemic. Thanks, immigrants!
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DJ
“CBO revised upward its 10-year GDP projections by $7 trillion, attributing the increase to immigration-driven labor force growth.
Fiscal challenges also look better, since immigrants pay taxes & are
much less likely than native-born Americans to qualify for benefits”
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