Association for Nine Eleven Truth Awareness
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Washington, DC  20006
202-980-7200
www.ANETA.org

D. J. Grothe

Retired President
James Randi Foundation
Randi.org
Scientific Skeptic
Critical Thinker
Host:
ForGoodReason.com
substack.com/@djgrothe
Professional Magician
 

 

Grothe vs. Shaddock Debate
Magicians & Skeptics Debate

Resolved (True or False):
Remote controlled Boeing jets,
taken over, were misdirection
away from explosives at the
World Trade Center on 9/11

March 14, 2024

James Randi Educational Foundation

Rick Shaddock
M.A. in Education
Maharishi International University
MIU Magic Club leader
Member: Skeptics Society
www.ANETA.org
www.ShaddockReearch.org
156 IQ, 40 of 40 (A+) on WGCTA (thanks to TM)
Google Scholar Citations 15
Hirsch index 2

Result:  D.J. Dodged the Debate.   Shaddock wins by default

Debating conspiracy theorists


And my reasons for declining

by D.J. Grothe
https://djgrothe.substack.com/p/debating-conspiracy-theorists

Douglas .J. Grothe (former JREF president) and I continue the debate on his Substack channel.
https://djgrothe.substack.com/p/debating-conspiracy-theorists

D.J. began by posting an ad hominem photo of a tin hat man.  Then:

1.  D.J. is concerned that I might not stay on topic, so there is no use to trying to debate.

2.  If  he debates, then it will bring legitimacy to "fringe theories" so it is best not to hear them.

3. He has about 200000 subscribers and does not want them to question the Official Conspiracy Theory.

Responses
 


Rebuttal


Invitation

Dear D.J.

This is my official promise to you to reimburse your valuable time for $60 for an hour (about .000911 Bitcoin) for 1 or 2 hours of discussion via Zoom (or a similar system).

I look forward to our discussion, which of course will be cordial and respectful of your knowledge and experience.   Please see our web site for the 10 previous debates to get an idea of the tone and topics.
www.911Debate.org .

Honorarium, out of respect for D.J. Grothes's time, is donated by the DigitalCoinAssociation.org is .000911 Bitcoin per hour (now about $60/hour)

Signed,

Rick Shaddock
202-365-6100 mobile
 

DjgrotheHirsch.mp3 - hear the phone call


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