Questions & Answers about the Theory:
Suffocated Occupants in Remote Controlled Planes
with Explosives into Buildings with Explosives SORCPWEIBWE

How Were Explosives Planted in the Pentagon?

Prior to 9/11 the Wedge 1, the western fifth of the Pentagon was undergoing remodeling and reinforcement.  The Pentagon Renovation Project began with the side that was hit.  It was nearly complete by 9/11, and best prepared for a plane impact.  Then why did it perform so poorly?  Not only were there holes going through 3 wings (C, D, E), but the outer facade completely collapsed.  This is poor performance by any standard. The answer is that most of the damage was caused by powerful Pre Planted Explosives (PPEs) in the Pentagon.

What happened at the Pentagon follows a pattern that is very similar to what many 9/11 Researchers find at the World Trade Center, such as over 1475 Architects and Engineers of The pattern is that a plane definitely hit the building, but is not the cause of the major damage - which was actually caused by Pre Planted Explosives. 

At the WTCs, the PPEs are believed to be nano-thermite explosives planted in the elevator shafts and ceiling panels.  Scientists Dr. Steven Jones, Dr. Niels Harrit, and Dr. Jeffrey Farrer identified red-grey chips of high tech military grade explosives in the dust of the World Trade Centers, with powerful microscopes and chemical analyzers.  This finding was published in the Open Chemical Physics Journal.  This finding was confirmed by an independent chemical engineer, Mark Basile of the Worcester Polytechnic Institute.

How could anyone get explosives in to the World Trade Centers? 

This could easily be accomplished at night, and even during the day by the elevator modernization crew.  Ace Elevator won the largest elevator contract in history and was working in the shafts for 9 months prior to 9/11.  SecuriCom, which had ties to George Bush's brother Marvin, was providing security for the WTC, United Airlines, and Dulles Airport, all involved in 9/11.

Similarities between the WTC and Pentagon Explosions

Explosives Filled Plane & Pentagon Theory

Observations World Trade Centers Pentagon
Remodeling done before 9/11 ACE Elevator Parsons Commercial Tech Group & DMJM Harris
Plane hit iconic American building Yes Yes
Plane was filled with explosives to destroy engine and evidence, and to ensure a fire ball occurred Yes
Exploded just after entry
Exploded just before entry
Internal damage was more than what a plane could do alone Yes Yes
Time delay before total collapse to allow evacuation of at least some people about 1 hour about 1/2 hour
Plane debris scattered Yes Yes
Spin the Press so the Plane gets all the blame Yes Yes
The perpetrators were "one trick ponies"
doing the same basic trick at the WTCs and the Pentagon
with some minor variations

How could explosives be planted in the Pentagon?

EFP&PT: Damage was more than what a plane could do by itself, which only damaged the E Ring
This theory proposes that the Plane only penetrated the outer E Ring at nearly a 90 degree angle.
The Orange Dots signify possible locations of Pre Planted Explosives, going at a 45 degree angle.

Likewise, there was modernization going on at the Pentagon, during which it would be easy to plant explosives in approximate 45 degree angle pattern from the exterior wall towards the C ring. This UPT proposes that the plane hit the Pentagon at a near 90 degree angle.  This would be the angle which will cause maximum damage to the plane, and most likely make it disintegrate.

This corresponds perfectly with what most of CIT's witnesses said, and wrote in their diagrams.   They drew the plane impacting the Pentagon at nearly a 90 degree angle.

The blue line is the proposed flight path
The red line is the Official flight path

North of Citgo Flight Path
Official Story South of Citgo Flight Path

Flight path drawn by witness: Darrell Stafford

The presence of two different angles provides a reason for witnesses to be in dispute.  This serves the perpetrators, who would want that a debate would go on for as many years as possible, perhaps forever.  People would assume that a plane at each angle would cause the damage. 

A debate could go on, splitting the Truth Movement in to opposing camps.  This tactic worked, as there has been a debate for years on this, even resulting in banishing of each other from their respective electronic forums.

But a plane at neither angle, 45 nor 90, could cause such damage to the inner rings of the Pentagon.  According to the UPT, it is not necessary that the plane cause the internal damage to the Pentagon.

Official Conspiracy Theory

Explosives Filled Plane & Pentagon Theory

Plane approaches wall at near 45 degree angle
after hitting light poles, still mostly intact

Plane approaches wall at near 90 degree angle
after passing North of Citgo, fractured by explosives

Studies using actual aircraft, crashing in to a brick wall, show that the plane disintegrates completely in to parts.  A plane is made of relatively light weight material, which would disintegrate on impact.  Aluminum is no match for steel reinforced concrete.  In order to get damage to the internal rings, pre -planted explosives would be necessary.

Why was it necessary for the inner rings of the Pentagon to be damaged? 

Why would it not be enough for the outer wall to be hit?

Jesse Ventura posits that there were financial records being kept in the West Wing that needed to be destroyed. This would provide a plausible reason for not being able to balance the Pentagon budget, or to account for nearly $2.3 trillion in transactions, as reported by Donald Rumsfeld on the day before 9/11, and as testified before Congress, including being grilled by Senator Robert Byrd.

If not for the explosives, we would have observed that a plane impacted the Pentagon at a 90 degree angle, and only penetrated the outer wall.  How inconvenient and embarrassing for the perpetrators to go through all that trouble, the plane bounced off the wall on to the lawn, and none of the records inside the Pentagon's Accounting Department were destroyed.  But PPEs planted a precise points would make sure that the targeted records were destroyed, possibly evidence of billions of dollars spent on illegal Black Operations.

The purpose of the PPEs was to provide a path of destruction at a 45 angle inside the Pentagon.  The light poles were "frosting on the cake" to reinforce the 45 degree path.  It would be relatively easy to have small charges that could detonate remotely, "to pop the light poles out of the ground" as stated in Loose Change. 

It is dubious that a light pole could go in to a cab window without causing damage to the hood.  So Lloyde England was speaking truthfully when he thought he was off camera and said "I'm in it" as an unwitting, and unprofiting participant in the staging of the taxi aspect of the Pentagon attack.

There has been much discussion of the reported 85 security cameras around the Pentagon and speculation as to why they are not being released.  Some predict that this is because no plane would be seen, and has even given rise to theories that a missile hit the Pentagon.  According to this EFP&PT, the reason the Pentagon will not release the photos and videos is that it will show that the approaching plane was on the wrong trajectory.  It hit at a 90 degree angle, rather than a 45 degree angle.

View from DoubleTree hotel shows blast going up

[Graphic1 coming soon]
This would men the blast went out, then up

[Graphic2 coming soon]
If plane blew up prior to impact, blast goes up

Photos show the blast going upwards.  This could not happen to that degree if the blast had to go out the hole, then up.

Why control the damage at the Pentagon?

The objective was to do sufficient damage to the Pentagon that the public would be outraged.  Why would the perpetrators bother to plant explosives, if the plane would do it? 
Why stage the 45 degree approach to the Pentagon?
Why not just let the plane do it?

We must remember that they had only one chance to hit the Pentagon on 9/11.    They had to plan for all possible contingencies.  What if the wind blew the plane too far north?  What if it blew too far south?  What if a ground effect pushed it up and over the Pentagon?  What if the plane did not hit the Pentagon hard enough?

All these situations could be accounted for by the use of carefully placed Pre Planted Explosives.  They could be put in the same rooms as the records that they wanted to destroy.  They could prepare evidence for a definite trajectory regardless of what happened to the plane.  The ideal would be that the plane approached at a 45 degree angle, to match the internal damage.

There are two possible reasons for the discrepancy between the plan and reality.
1) It could have been planned to divide the witnesses.
2) It could have been an accident, due to unpredictable wind blowing the plane

Official Conspiracy Theory -Pentagon

Explosives Filled Plane & Pentagon Theory

Plane hit Pentagon at a nearly 45 degree angle
and continued to the C Ring
accounting for 100% the observed damage
Red line is the path of the plane

Plane hit Pentagon at a nearly 90 degree angle
and continued through the E ring only, about 33%
The 67% rest of the damage was done by explosives.
Red line is the plane. Orange dots are explosives.



In the above diagrams, the red line is the trajectory of the plane.  The arrow head is where the nose of the plane came to rest.

It should be noted that few claim that the nose of the plane made it to the C Ring.  Explosives would explain the hole.  

During the renovation of the West Wing of the Pentagon, in a Top Secret environment, boxes of old plane parts could have been brought in, with approval of top level perpetrators.  If no one was able to open the boxes, as 9/11 approached, no one would know.  Presumably, on the morning of 9/11, the boxes would be unpacked, and the plane parts were strewn about.

In this statement by Frank Legge:

CIT claims that their 13 witnesses, who describe the path of the plane approaching the Pentagon as being to the north of the former Citgo service station, provide irrefutable proof that the plane could not have hit the Pentagon in the manner described in official accounts and must therefore have flown over.

CIT is correct that the plane approached the Pentagon on the north side, but is incorrect in stating that his "must therefore have flown over."  It does not follow. Another option exists. It could have hit the Pentagon at a 90 degree angle and disintegrated.

How did the debris get so scattered on to the Pentagon lawn in all directions?

Explosives explains this perfectly.  Other theories force us to consider that they were planted by hand (difficult), or expelled out the hole (they would only go one main direction).  The first version of Loose Change implied they were planted.  If the plane exploded inside the Pentagon, then the part (below) would have to go out the hole, then turn South West and land on the lawn.  A curved trajectory would violate Newton's First Law of Motion, that an object tends to stay in motion in the same direction, unless acted on by an outside force.  A plane exploding just prior to impact would send parts flying in a straight path in all directions, and scattered across the lawn, which is exactly what we see.  

The Official Conspiracy Theory says the plane entered the Pentagon THEN exploded.  But then...

How did the plane part land here from the plane inside the hole?
Newton's First Law of Motion

An object stays in motion, in the same direction, unless acted on by an outside force.

Old Theory
Part flew out from Inside the wall
Curved trajectory of plane part

Part came from plane as it exploded inside the Pentagon.
It flew outwards in a curved trajectory.
It landed at a 90 degree angle from the source.

Violates Newton's First Law of Motion

New Theory
Part flew from Outside the wall
Straight trajectory of plane part

Part came from plane as it exploded outside the Pentagon.
It flew in a straight trajectory.
It landed straight from the source.

Follows Newton's First Law of Motion

The above graphic shows the most "generous" Old Theory part path.
The Official Conspiracy Theory requires an even sharper angle for the part path.
The expected location should be in the diagonal direction towards the light poles.

The Actual Location, just outside a circle in the grass, beyond the heliport,
 would require a curved trajectory.  That's quite a "curve ball"!
The Expected Location of the Plane Part is in the direction straight out the hole.

Note that the grass is worn in that direction, as if often walked on,
possibly by planners of the 9/11 attack, staging the light poles.

Plane parts could not fly out the hole, then turn a corner.
The plane must have begun exploding outside the Pentagon wall.


What happened to the two titanium engines of the plane? 

If a plane did hit the Pentagon, then why don't we see the marks for them in the wall, or significant remains of them?

This question assumes that the plane was Flight 77 and had two such engines.  This EFP&PT proposes that a plane definitely hit the Pentagon, but is not definite about which type of plane.  It could have been a plane that had engines that were more fragile, and would disintegrate upon impact.

engine hit between column 16 and 17 pentagon crash site entry point photo
Damage to the Pentagon supports the Explosives Filled Plane & Pentagon Theory

The 6 Photo Frames Released by the Pentagon

In response to a Freedom of Information Act (FIOA) request, the Pentagon finally, and reluctantly release the following 6 frames, instead of all the photos from the 85 security cameras the FBI reported were operational on 9/11.  Also, note the the date on the photos is wrong.  It starts at "Sept. 12, 2001 17:37:19" which is not even Greenwich time.  The time is over 1 day off.  The photos show signs of being manipulated.

Why is the plane blowing up outside the wall, and we don't see the plane go in the wall first?

Another explanation is that, in a plane of pre planted explosives, they exploded just prior to impact.  Note in the following photo, you can still see a bit of the plane's tail exploding towards the right.  This would include the two engines.  Therefore, we do not find a hole for them in the Pentagon wall.

From photos released by the Pentagon
The Smoking Gun - going off!
Note that the tail is visible flying towards the right


The lack of two engine holes gave rise to theories of a missile, or that the plane flew over.  But this can be easily explained by an explosion just prior to impact, that disintegrated the two engines.

What they let us see (not much)

OCT - Officially released frames

What we would expect to see

Artist's conception

The Official Conspiracy Theory (OCT, red line) proposes the plane continued through to the C Ring.
The Explosives Filled Plane & Pentagon Theory (EFP&PT, yellow line) proposes it only went through the E Ring,
and that Pre Planted Explosives made the rest of the holes through to the C Ring.

The Pentagon refuses to release the full photos possibly because
the plane was on the wrong trajectory (90 degrees to the wall) and
Pre Planted Explosives in the plane went off a split second prior to impact
to reduce the damage to the Pentagon

Pentagon Impact Areas


Why Was the Hole Smaller than Expected?

Many reliable witnesses, both from CIT and PIO, say that the plane that approached the Pentagon was a large passenger jet.  However, it did not need to be so big as to cause 100% of the damage in the Pentagon.  It only needed to be large enough to cause about 33%.  It could have been smaller than a Boeing 757, and still be considered quite large.  It did not need to be a Boeing at all, but any reasonably sized aircraft, which was painted with the American Airlines colors.

It is possible that explosives could have been attached to the two jet engines, which are often made of titanium, to make sure they exploded in to bits, upon impact.  It could have been a specially prepared plane, for all we know. It was capable of maneuvers that neither Hani Hanjur, or a Boeing 757 could make.  The plane could have indeed "vaporized" but not just by the impact with the Pentagon, but combined with explosives.  This would help make sure that tell-tale plane part serial numbers would not disprove it from being Flight 77.  It is possible that the plane was remote controlled, and loaded with explosives, not passengers, so that it would seem to disappear in to the side of the Pentagon, rather than bounce off the thick concrete wall.

Why would an Exploded Plane Makes Less Impact?

A plane that explodes just prior to impact makes less damage than an intact plane.  When the parts are dispersed, so is the impact.  The impact is distributed into many contact points, rather than combined in one contact point.

For example if you drop a 10 pound bowling ball on your foot, it hurts, even with shoes on.  But if you drop 10 pounds of sand on your foot it does not, even bare foot. 

Which hurts more when dropped on your foot?

10 pound bowling ball

10 pounds of sand poured

even wearing a boot

Don't hurt
even bare foot

The explosives in the drone plane fragmented and softened it up.

Wouldn't an explosion make a crater?

The size of the crater would be proportional to the size of the explosion.  It also varies with the distance the plane is above the ground.  Experiments should be done to determine what is needed to make a crater.  However the Earth is a big object to compress into, and is already compressed about as much as it will go, except for moist areas.  If the area under the impact zone was concrete, it would not depress significantly, even if an explosion was only a few feet above it.

The explosives necessary to explode an aluminum airplane are much less than that necessary to make a crater.  More research should be done in this area.  It is not critical to this theory.  The explosives are to explain the smaller than expected hole and marks in the Pentagon wall.  Some researchers such as Jim Hoffman write that the damage was about as big as one would expect.

Why Smaller than expected Engine or Tail Fin Marks in the Pentagon Wall?

There were no engine or tail fin marks, as found on other flights, because the plane could have contained explosives, which blew the entire plane apart, just before it reached the wall of the Pentagon.

Notice that there is a considerable explosion outside the Pentagon wall.  There appears to be a tail fin in this frame, which may have exploded in the next frame.

Why such a big flame?

It may seem obvious that jet fuel would make big flame, if ignited by a spark.  But does an aluminum jet on a concrete wall make a spark?  If Boy Scouts are trying to start a fire, do they rub an aluminum soup can on a rock?  Or on steel?  No.  

What if a plane hit the Pentagon, and the kerosene jet fuel spilled out and just got everything wet?  What if a plane hit the World Trade Center, made a hole, but no flame?  What if no hot coffee pot or electrical spark ignited the fuel?  Then it would be difficult to claim that the buildings came down due to fire.

In order to make an immediate, huge flame at the Pentagon, and at the World Trade Centers, explosives were probably put on the drone aircraft.  This ensured a huge fire ball, which could be stated as the cause of the collapse.

But some witnesses said they saw the plane enter first, then explode

Think about this claim for a moment.  Does it sound plausible?  The plane was reportedly going over 500 miles per hour. That is like a speeding bullet. Can these people claim to see a bullet enter a target, then explode?   It is nonsense.  It happens much too fast for the human eye.  It happens in a small fraction of a second.  So we need to be skeptical, and even suspicious, of people who make this claim. The perpetrators would try to imply that the plane entered the Pentagon first, then after some time exploded. This is not even corroborated by the Official photo (above) showing the plane clearly exploding outside the wall of the Pentagon.  We are not provided with any photo showing a plane going in to the building, without a burst of flames. 

Why Strike the Pentagon at a 45 Degree Angle?

A 45 degree angle of attack has advantages and drawbacks for the perpetrators.  If a terrorist wanted to hit the Pentagon, a 45 degree angle would mean it would be a glancing blow, and thus would be counter-productive to their mission to do maximum damage.  If the perpetrators were American, a 45 degree angle would do the least damage.

For example, if you hit something at a 45 degree angle it may well bounce off. The force might not be great enough for the plane to go through the E Ring, much less the D and C Rings.

For example, if you are boxing, and hit your opponent in the stomach at a 45 degree angle he hardly feels it.  The force is distributed laterally.  But if you hit him at a 90 degree angle, he will feel it. 

Why did they pick this angle?  Perhaps is was because it would do less damage to the Pentagon.  After all, it was their own building.  The perpetrators wanted damage that could be repaired within months.

Perhaps because there are more light poles to show a direction.  On the 90 degree angle approach there are only 1 or 2 poles.  It could also be that, because criminals have warped thinking, they didn't think this out, and made a mistake.  Criminals often underestimate investigators. That's how they get caught.

The purpose of a 45 degree angle may have been due, a little bit, to the availability of street light poles. But a major reason is that it provides a margin of error, in case the plane did not hit at the planned spot.  If it hit a little to the left or right, that would be better masked in a diagonal line of damage.  If the line of damage was perpendicular to the wall at a 90 degree angle, then the plane better hit right at that spot.  Otherwise you would end up with a very suspicious looking line of damage.

Damage at a 45 degree angle
masks the missing of the target by the plane
which appears to have hit a bit too far east.

Hypothetical damage at a 90 degree angle
and the Plane missed its target
resulting in a suspicious damage pattern

Why Strike the Pentagon at a 90 Degree Angle?

The best direction for a plane wishing to do damage to the Pentagon would be head on, at a 90 degree angle.  This applies the maximum weight and momentum to the building wall.  By the Law of Conservation of Momentum, it also does the maximum damage to the plane.  It would cause it to disintegrate.   If the plane was not really Flight 77, then the perpetrators would want it to disappear as much as possible.

This is a video of an F4 Phantom Jet hitting a wall at about 500 miles per hour.  Notice how the plane disintegrates, while the wall appears intact.  This matches what many witnesses saw - the plane merging right into the building.

This is why explosives were necessary. An aluminum plane cannot do so much damage to a steel reinforced concrete wall.  The parts would be scattered about the lawn, and even on to the highway, as was the case on 9/11.

This theory also hypothesizes that explosives in the plane, particularly the engines, set to go off upon impact.  This is why so many parts are on the lawn, and why there are not two holes for the engines, nor the wings, nor the vertical stabilizer.

It may well have been the plan to strike the Pentagon at a 45 degree angle. 

Did "Mother Nature" Intervene on 9/11 to give us Clues?

There was a wind blowing east that day. Perhaps the wind suddenly ceased, forcing the plane, which assumed a constant east wind, to the North West. Or perhaps there may have been a sudden gust, forcing the plane to over-compensate. Fortunately, "Mother Nature" caused it to take the NOC path, rather than the planned SOC path, giving us a clue that something was not right.  Perhaps "Mother Nature" intervened by chance, to give us a clue, blowing the plane off course, causing it to over-compensate and take the North of Citgo path, deviating from the carefully planned South of Citgo approach to avoid the Department of Transportation tower.

Something else may have gone wrong with the "best laid plans" of the perpetrators for AA Flight 43 from Boston, the "Fifth Plane", which was grounded due to mechanical problems, probably was intended to hit World Trade Center 7.

Why did the Perpetrators give us clues?

In their effort to save the Pentagon the full damage of a plane, they exposed themselves.  If the plane made a standard impact, then we would see all the signs of a plane crash.  No one would question it.  But, because the damage was odd, that started the "conspiracy theories" and the 9/11 Truth movement.  The perpetrators did not plan on so many questions.   They underestimated the public, and over-estimated their ability to fool everyone.

Why Stage the Light Poles?  Why not just hit them with a plane?

The planners of the Pentagon attack must have been meticulous, and probably spent years accounting for each contingency.  It is not so easy to hit light poles reliably, and keep flying.

In the event of an unexpected flight path, caused by unpredictable winds, the perpetrators wanted some evidence that establishes a clear direction of flight to the Pentagon.  It should have occurred to them that if a plane actually hits light poles, a wing could come off, and the plane would come immediately down.  Then they would be faced with the embarrassing situation of having a plane on the front lawn, not reaching the Pentagon, then the Pentagon explodes.  Then, obviously explosives were in the Pentagon and people would be asking who put them there.

There was never any intention of the plane actually hitting the light poles.  The perpetrators depended on public ignorance of what would happen when a plane hits a light pole.  George H.W. Bush was expecting a plane in Dallas when it hit a single light pole and crashed at Love Field (same airport JFK came in to in 1963).  The plane went out of control after hitting just one pole, even with an experienced pilot.  If he was in control he would have landed somehow.  But the pilot died.   So how are we to seriously believe that an inexperienced pilot like Hani Hanjur could control a plane that hit 6 light poles and kept flying?

The purpose of Staging the Light Poles was to reinforce the alleged direction of the plane, to be consistent with the line of explosives planted inside the Pentagon, and the directional damage.  As it turned out, they were necessary.  Their "best laid plan" went a bit astray.  It may be that wind blew the plane too far north, so that it impacted the Pentagon at about a 90 degree angle.  The light poles helped to convince the public that the trajectory was actually more like 45 degrees.

The light poles could have been put down the night before 9/11/2001, or with a small remote controlled explosive that would cause them to tip over as the plane approached the Pentagon.  With everyone's eyes on the bright flash of the explosion, few would notice the light poles falling over.  It is important to note that no formal investigation was done on the poles, to see if any explosive residue was found on them.  They were quickly taken away to some unknown location.  They were not properly studied by investigators, nor the 9/11 Commission.

Another possibility is that, after the light poles were prepared for staging, someone realized that a 45 degree angle approach would mean that the plane would mostly bounce off the Pentagon wall.

More photos of the Light Poles.  Note the improbably straight cut at the bottom of the base that supposedly happened when the plane struck the top.

"Clean Cut" Light Poles

On the other hand, there is this list of Light Pole witnesses.

Would Standing Pole SP-B be in the way of NOC approach?

Light pole SP-B was in line for one of the many possible paths from the North of the Citgo gas station. As you see from the diagram below, the plane could have passed between the poles which are apart.  The wing span of a 757 is only.

But, even so, let's suppose the plane went directly over the top of SP-B, and see if the plane could clear the top of it, and still hit the Pentagon.  CIT has done an investigation on the Required low and level impact, versus standing poles and obstacles on the North Side path.

They point out the ASCE did not find any significant damage to the Pentagon foundation.  This would be consistent with the EFP&P Theory, as a shattered plane which had just exploded, could not do much damage to the Pentagon foundation.

We see several paths the plane could have taken to avoid the poles

The plane has only two potential obstacles to a west side, 90 degree impact into the Pentagon.
There appears to be enough room to fly over SP-G and between Standing Pole SP-A and SP-B. 
If it went over SP-B the plane would need to descent 10 feet per 100 feet to hit the Pentagon.
(Note the suspicious diagonal path through the grass in the same direction as the Official Flight Path.)

Boeing 757 is 44.5 feet high
155.25 feet in length
Plane needs to go down 10 feet
for every 100 feet it goes to the right

Pentagon Wall 77 feet tall

Light poles are 40 feet tall.
(Source: Pilots For 911 Truth)

Distance from Standing Pole SP-B
to Pentagon Wall: 400 feet


Source: Google Maps aerial view of Pentagon with 50 ft scale extended to the right
We can count eight (8) 50 foot increments, or 400 feet, from SP-B to the Pentagon.

The above diagram was made from an Excel spreadsheet you can check
StandingPoleBToPentagon.xls   The scale is 1 cell per 10 feet.

Depending on the Plane's speed, how long did it take to go the 400 feet?
Under 1 second




300 miles per hour ® 400 miles per hour ® 500 miles per hour ®
5 miles per minute 6.7 miles per minute 8.3 miles per minute
.08 miles per second .11 miles per second .14 miles per second

440 feet per second ® horizontal

587 feet per second  ® 733 feet per second ®
.91 Seconds .68 seconds .55 seconds
44 feet per second ¯ vertical 58.7 feet per second ¯ 73.3 feet per second ¯

It seems reasonable that the plane could fly at a 10% descent rate, dropping 40 feet for every 400 feet going forward.   This would be about a 5.7 degree angle of descent.  SP-B does not seem to be a deal breaker for the EFP&P Theory.  But this is a question for Pilots For 9/11 Truth.

Light pole on the above graphic, and Excel spreadsheet was cropped from a photo of an actual light pole around the Pentagon for authenticity.


Is this approach aerodynamically possible?

Take a look at the angle of approach.  You don't have to be an expert pilot.  Does such a small, 5.7 degree, nose down approach look "impossible" to you?

What hit the Generator?

There was an electrical generator outside the Pentagon.  It could have been hit by parts of the exploding the plane, or it was moved by force of the explosion of the plane, just prior to its impact with the Pentagon.

pentagon generator 91101 riskus

How did the plane debris go out the hole, then turn at an angle?

Good question.  It can't.  If debris is shooting out the hole, it goes mainly in one direction.  Flying debris cannot "turn corners" in mid air.  Newton's First  Law of Motion states that Objects in motion tend to stay in motion, and in the same direction, unless acted on by some other force.  This shows that the plane must have exploded at least partially outside the Pentagon wall.

What made the C Ring Hole so large?

This theory proposes that the damage to the C and D sections were made by pre-planted explosives.  The outer E Ring damage was a combination of pre-planted explosives, and the impact of the plane.

The perpetrators did not plan this one very well. The opening in the C Ring was too large to be believable. The nose of the aircraft would not have enough power, after passing through the E and D rings, to make such a hole in the C Ring.  This is a red flag that leads us to uncover the false flag operation.

Why did the rest of the building cave in?

The initial impact photos show the upper floors to be quite stable.  So why did they suddenly collapse?

This was to cover up the small hole, lack of wing marks, and other signs.  A scatter analysis may have shown that the plane had exploded just prior to impact. This had to be quickly covered up.  Pre-planted explosives in the upper floors could have brought the rest of the section down.

Before the collapse

After the collapse

The upper floors were not so bad that they would have crashed down by themselves.

Why was the crime scene covered up?

Indeed.  Why cover over the lawn, then put up tents on top of a Federal crime scene?  Here's a photo of "Camp Cover Up".

Why a Closed Military Trial for those held at Guantanamo?

This is so the water-boarded "confession" will not be exposed.  A "defense attorney" will be appointed who will not try very hard.  Statements will be suppressed and carefully spun before being released to the public.  Of course none of the evidence for 9/11 as an inside job will be permitted to be discussed.  It will be a kangaroo court.

Why Haven't Any of the Perpetrators Come Forward?

Why should they?  They feel what they did was justified for America, to increase military spending and bring "democracy" to the world.  They believe killing about 3000 people was worth "saving" 300 million Americans.  Also, they would be implicating themselves and their associates in murder.

Who Planned the War Games on 9/11 and Why?

Only a few of the very top commanders would need to know it was a False Flag Operation.  In the military orders come from Top Down.  Theoretically only 1 person, the Commander in Chief would need to give the order.  But subordinates would not knowingly allow many Americans to be killed, or violate their Oath to defend the Constitution.  The 6 War Games of 9/11 were necessary so a general could give an order and the subordinate would obey, thinking it was just a War Game.

Even for a General, planning a scheme which kills innocent Americans is treason.  The other 99.99% good people in the military could mutiny and have him arrested.  So the War Games provides a "plausible deniability" so he could say he "thought it was part of the drill exercises." There were an unprecedented number of War Games on 9/11.  Usually there is only 1 every month or so.  On 9/11 there were no less than 6 that we know of.  This is unheard of.   Never before or since were there so many War Games in one day.   
Vigilant Guardian
Vigilant Warrior
Northern Vigilance
Northern Guardian
Tripod II

That would be like 6 neighboring Fire Departments all scheduling fire drills with practice fires to put out at the same time, leaving their towns vulnerable to a real fire. 

The War Game simulations were all in the same East area of the USA. No such drills were going on in the MidWest or Western USA.  By "chance" only in the area impacted by 9/11.

They were all suspiciously similar to the actual events that were going on that day.  They had to be similar, so the military people would follow the orders to stand down without getting suspicious, and questioning their commanders.  They would think "Oh, this is just a war game simulation."

Notice that the Generals received awards and promotions for 9/11.  No one was demoted, even during the biggest failure of defense in American history.  Military people did what they were ordered to do, thinking it was part of the drill.  The military is a unique environment where orders are not be be questioned.  Obedience without an explanation is the general rule. The promotions at the top of the military is a clear indication that 9/11 was a planned False Flag Operation, and was "successful" in accomplishing the mission.

You only have to look at Operation Northwoods to see some twisted minds of a few Generals of the Joint Chiefs of Staff at work.  They planned to kill civilians and blame it on Cuba to get America's support for war.  Fortunately President Kennedy disapproved of this crazy scheme, and "promoted" Admiral Lyman Lemnitzer far away to NATO in Belgium, where he could not do harm, out of the loop in DC. 

You can read more, such as the CIA Assassination Manual, in former Governor of Minnesota and Navy SEAL, Jesse Ventura's book, 63 Documents the Government Doesn't Want You to Read.

Being a General is the only job in society where it is permissible to plan the large scale killing of people.  It is not healthy, and a career of over 20 years of this thinking dehumanizes people.  They use words like "collateral damage" for killing innocent people.  Some generals seem to see people as "pawns" on a chess board who can be sacrificed as "collateral damage" for a larger strategy. 

Fortunately most Generals can keep their humanity and perspective, such as Five Star General Dwight D. Eisenhower, who knew that some Generals were not so enlightened.  President Eisenhower said "we must guard against the Military Industrial Complex."

Now, after a False Flag Operation leading us to two illegal wars, and talk of Martial Law, we see why.

Bankrupting America for "national security", so China can buy us up, for "pennies on the Yuan".

Suspected Participants in the 9/11 False Flag Operation


How rogue elements in the Military Industrial Complex pulled off the biggest "protection racket"
scheme for "job security" in history, and fooled over 300 million Americans for almost 10 years.




Official 9/11 Commission Report - PDF - Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Zelikow - PentaCon, C.R., Aldo Marquis
Pump It Forum - Jeffrey Hill
A New 9/11 Hypothesis - Dr. David Griscom
Major General Albert Stubblebine, Natural Solutions Foundation

911 Planes Exceeded Their Software Limits / Cell Phone Calls Could Not Have Been Made

Kevin Ryan's 25 Questions

What happens if an airliner suddenly loses cabin pressure?
In the event of a larger hole in the fuselage, there’s more risk of hypothermia than decompression. “[T]he cabin temperature would drop from 70˚ degrees F to as low as -60˚F,” writes Lombardo. “With temperatures that low, it is only a matter of seconds before hypothermia sets in and everyone begins to freeze to death.”  So it isn't the pressure drop that gets you after all. It's the cold.











Was the plane really Flight 77?  Yes or No

Possibility #1: Yes - Gassed Occupants, Bombs in Baggage, Remote Control

The plane could indeed have been Flight 77.  This would make the False Flag Black Operation even harder to detect.  The parts could be identify it by serial numbers.  People could identified by DNA. 

Bombs could have been put in bags in the luggage compartment ready to go off on impact.  A knock out gas could have been released in to the passenger section, as well as the cockpit.  This would render everyone unconscious.  The plane became a Gas Chamber, with the occupants unable to escape, or open the windows to get fresh air.  The plane would proceed under remote control, and crash into the Pentagon.  Remote control was a standard feature for Boeing 757 and 767's.

Passengers may have been able to make calls from seat back phones were possible.  But cell phones had to be faked.  Additional calls, using voice morphing may have been made to ensure that the planned story got out to the press.

Two Types of Luggage Smuggled into the Cargo Section
of the Planes to be Triggered by Remote Control

for knocking plane occupants unconscious
including crew, passengers and hijackers

Hydrogen Cyanide Gas
Released into cabin by remote control

to ensure a smaller hole at Pentagon
and large fire ball at the WTCs.

Detonated by remote control

The baggage containing the cyanide gas tanks could have also contained explosives, or placed next to bags with explosives, so they were not detected in the wreckage.

What happens do occupants when Cyanide gas is released into cabin?

Hydrogen cyanide, under the name Zyklon B, was used as a genocidal agent by the Germans in World War II.  Reports have indicated that during the Iran-Iraq War in the 1980s, hydrogen cyanide gas may have been used along with other chemical agents against the inhabitants of the Kurdish city of Halabja in northern Iraq.

  • People exposed to a small amount of cyanide by breathing it, absorbing it through their skin, or eating foods that contain it may have some or all of the following symptoms within minutes:
  • Exposure to a large amount of cyanide by any route may cause these other health effects as well:
  • Is Remote Control of a Jet Possible?  Yes

    "December 1, 1984. A remote controlled Boeing 720 takes off from Edwards Air Force Base and is crash landed by NASA for fuel research.  Before its destruction, the plane flew a total of 16 hours and 22 minutes, including 10 take-offs, 69 approaches, and 13 landings."  

    Cl;ick for Remote Controlled Jet sequence From Loose Change video

    Click for more information about Remote Control of Planes

    Possibility # 2: No - Substituted Drone Plane

    A problem with Possibility #1 is that the Boeing could not fly so fast, and turn with such G force.  The plane could have been substituted during the time that the radar went out.  Here is a paper about possible Flight 77 Substitution, based on the work of Dr. David Griscom.  He points out that there are hundreds of old plane available at the "plane grave yard" at David-Monthan Air Force Base near Tucson, Arizona.

    It would have been more convenient for the perpetrators to have a modified, remote controlled plane.  This would give them months to prepare it with just the right placement of explosives. It could do the high speed maneuvers that were seen, and less resistance to doing the operation.  It would eliminate last minute jitters by the pilot, possibly aborting the crash.

    Possibility #3: Yes and No - Flight 77 lands, loads explosives, passengers disembark, then it takes off to the Pentagon

    This is a possibility, since there was a time that Flight 77 was too low for radar.  But it is more complex, and requires precise timing.  Sounds like there is a lot of room for error on this option.  But it is a possibility to be considered.


    Either way, the plane could have been packed with explosives to go off upon impact

    It would be even more convenient to have explosives on board.  They could be timed to explode the plane just prior to impact, to reduce the damage to the Pentagon wall.  Explosive charges could be placed in the engines, to blow them up.  This would explain why we don't see a big hole in the wall.  This would reduce the damage to the Pentagon.  After all, the military did not want to do too much damage to their own building.  Just enough to fool everyone.

    Were oxygen masks also fixed with poisonous or knock-out gas?
    Oxygen tanks could have been replaced with tanks of cyanide gas.
    Bombs could have been placed in bags in the baggage compartment